CCO: Robyn

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Fish-killer

CCO: Robyn

Post by Fish-killer » Sun Jan 16, 2011 11:34 pm

Name: Robyn
Country: :ge:
Gender: female
:hit: Flight, Beauty.
:miss: Cars, Money.
:skill: Land units are at 80/100, naval units cost 20% more and are at 90/100. air units are at 120/130
:power: Wind Shear: Harsh air currents affect the battle, making all enemy air units take 1 mass damage. Her own units ride the air current, putting her air units are at 140/150.
:super: True Light's Flight: Harsher air currents affect the battle, making all enemy air units take 2 mass damage, all her own units ride the air current, making her air units move 2 spaces faster, and her air units are at 170/190.
Power Bar: :smallstar: :smallstar: :smallstar: :bigstar: :bigstar: :bigstar: :bigstar:
Power quotes: "Ride the wind!" "Aren't the winds lovely?" "There's a storm brewing. this should be fun!"
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Sonja: 110%: Geniuses united
Andy: 120: Aerial Overlord
Jess: 80% (Jess didn't like her dad much)
Colin: 90% (she can't buy naval units well, he doesn't like that.)
:jugger:: Bolt Guard statistical assessment: Powerful. Smart. Handsome. Bolt Guard intent: Smack-laying in a downward direction.

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Re: CCO: Robyn

Post by Airnike » Mon Jan 17, 2011 2:00 am

What's the thing behind that?
She surely would rule the sky above Eagle, but she's so dementially uglily unbalanced.
I can't say anything about top tier or bottom tier, though I'd tend to the second option because of her unusable land and sea units.

Whatever her tier could be, playing with such unbalance is not funny, look at Colin.
MysteriousLad be like:
Oh hello, I am MysteriousLad.
Do you know when I was an OP player? When I wasn't in WWN and massclaims were legit good? Yea I miss the days I could force town to claim, rout out the mafia, and win the game for free day 3. Sometimes without being killed!
Senpai HPD notices me everyday when I'm town, do no scum play, and still get lynched day 1.
Anyway, it's time to go and ask people to claim and go lynch those who don't with my high-skill OP role.
I am MysteriousLad.

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Fish-killer

Re: CCO: Robyn

Post by Fish-killer » Mon Jan 17, 2011 2:48 am

the theme is: She can't use land or sea units very well, but she's brilliant with air units. and I'm trying to go with something original, not just another eagle rip-off.

And just so you know, I actually plan to hack most of my COs into the game when I think they are balanced enough.
:jugger:: Bolt Guard statistical assessment: Powerful. Smart. Handsome. Bolt Guard intent: Smack-laying in a downward direction.

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Re: CCO: Robyn

Post by deemo » Mon Jan 17, 2011 3:53 am

what the hell
her navy is ungodly nerfed
i'd even take 70/100 naval units over 90/100 with 1.2x cost

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Re: CCO: Robyn

Post by Airnike » Mon Jan 17, 2011 5:49 pm

Fish-killer wrote:The theme is: She can't use land or sea units very well...
She can't use them at all. I smell prey.
Fish-killer wrote:...but she's brilliant with air units.
Far too much. Eagle is 120/100 and is called air specialist. What's the point of adding 30% defense? A cheap attempt at being broken?
Fish-killer wrote:And I'm trying to go with something original, not just another eagle rip-off.
You have reached your goal, but not in a balanced way.
Fish-killer wrote:And just so you know, I actually plan to hack most of my COs into the game when I think they are balanced enough.
Which isn't actually done with this one.

My advice is to decrease the weakness and strengthes so you have a balanced result.
MysteriousLad be like:
Oh hello, I am MysteriousLad.
Do you know when I was an OP player? When I wasn't in WWN and massclaims were legit good? Yea I miss the days I could force town to claim, rout out the mafia, and win the game for free day 3. Sometimes without being killed!
Senpai HPD notices me everyday when I'm town, do no scum play, and still get lynched day 1.
Anyway, it's time to go and ask people to claim and go lynch those who don't with my high-skill OP role.
I am MysteriousLad.

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Re: CCO: Robyn

Post by Fish-killer » Mon Jan 17, 2011 6:36 pm

okay. how about 10% more expensive sea, and 90/100 penalty?
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Dakka": slang for rapid fire capability, based on the onomatopoeia for automatic guns shooting. You need moar of it. No exceptions.

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Re: CCO: Robyn

Post by Airnike » Tue Jan 18, 2011 7:17 pm

Another thing: sea is nothing.
That's partially why almost noone likes Drake.

My advice is more like, say, 90/100 ground and sea units and 100(or 110)/120 air units.
MysteriousLad be like:
Oh hello, I am MysteriousLad.
Do you know when I was an OP player? When I wasn't in WWN and massclaims were legit good? Yea I miss the days I could force town to claim, rout out the mafia, and win the game for free day 3. Sometimes without being killed!
Senpai HPD notices me everyday when I'm town, do no scum play, and still get lynched day 1.
Anyway, it's time to go and ask people to claim and go lynch those who don't with my high-skill OP role.
I am MysteriousLad.

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Re: CCO: Robyn

Post by monkymeet » Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:25 pm

Uh, drake is awesome?
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Re: CCO: Robyn

Post by Satel » Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:59 am

No, Drake is a d2d n00b.
Joey wrote:i think i was mad at certain players and wanted to wave st3rn's success in their face at the most opportune moment, or something

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Re: CCO: Robyn

Post by Airnike » Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:50 am

@Monkymeet: When I look at your rank, I know I only have to ignore what's written.
You're saying what to me is a "Hey you're not right! Sea mastery makes Drake top tier!" where everyone know Drake hasn't absolute sea mastery and even if he had, sea battles are less present than Fog Of War.

@St3en: Agreed, bro. Hence he's considered low tier, but his powers pack quite a punch, which means he has a bottom tier D2D to compensate.
MysteriousLad be like:
Oh hello, I am MysteriousLad.
Do you know when I was an OP player? When I wasn't in WWN and massclaims were legit good? Yea I miss the days I could force town to claim, rout out the mafia, and win the game for free day 3. Sometimes without being killed!
Senpai HPD notices me everyday when I'm town, do no scum play, and still get lynched day 1.
Anyway, it's time to go and ask people to claim and go lynch those who don't with my high-skill OP role.
I am MysteriousLad.

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Re: CCO: Robyn

Post by deemo » Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:47 am

Ainiku wrote:@Monkymeet: When I look at your rank, I know I only have to ignore what's written.
You're saying what to me is a "Hey you're not right! Sea mastery makes Drake top tier!" where everyone know Drake hasn't absolute sea mastery and even if he had, sea battles are less present than Fog Of War.

@St3en: Agreed, bro. Hence he's considered low tier, but his powers pack quite a punch, which means he has a bottom tier D2D to compensate.
um what

drake is pretty much high tier now because mass damage COs are fun and awesome

this was discussed in a topic months ago after playtesting with gip

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Re: CCO: Robyn

Post by monkymeet » Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:10 pm

lol ainiku you is so clever
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Re: CCO: Robyn

Post by Airnike » Wed Jan 19, 2011 6:28 pm

deemo wrote:
Ainiku wrote:@Monkymeet: When I look at your rank, I know I only have to ignore what's written.
You're saying what to me is a "Hey you're not right! Sea mastery makes Drake top tier!" where everyone know Drake hasn't absolute sea mastery and even if he had, sea battles are less present than Fog Of War.

@St3en: Agreed, bro. Hence he's considered low tier, but his powers pack quite a punch, which means he has a bottom tier D2D to compensate.
um what

drake is pretty much high tier now because mass damage COs are fun and awesome

this was discussed in a topic months ago after playtesting with gip
Drake is high tier?
Well, it's because of his mass damage not his D2D.
Sea units are nowhere to be seen in most battles. Air units are seen more often, so we could basically say without powers Drake is under Andy.
MysteriousLad be like:
Oh hello, I am MysteriousLad.
Do you know when I was an OP player? When I wasn't in WWN and massclaims were legit good? Yea I miss the days I could force town to claim, rout out the mafia, and win the game for free day 3. Sometimes without being killed!
Senpai HPD notices me everyday when I'm town, do no scum play, and still get lynched day 1.
Anyway, it's time to go and ask people to claim and go lynch those who don't with my high-skill OP role.
I am MysteriousLad.

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Re: CCO: Robyn

Post by Satel » Thu Jan 20, 2011 8:32 am

Drake, high tier?
Yeah, his powers are cheesy, but, what, high tier for that?
C'mon. He doesn't stand a chance against Jess or Eagle.
Joey wrote:i think i was mad at certain players and wanted to wave st3rn's success in their face at the most opportune moment, or something

st3rn fudge st3rn

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Re: CCO: Robyn

Post by Airnike » Thu Jan 20, 2011 9:45 am

Well, the mass damage does its work, and the fuel cut would be even more likely to hinder Eagle's overdriven units.
Though Jess will never be affected that much by the fuel cut, she still will have problems with the mass damage because her Drake rape on ground matchups results in him taking more damage, which implies powers coming more often.
And whoever gip is, he playtests without cheating, unlike us.
MysteriousLad be like:
Oh hello, I am MysteriousLad.
Do you know when I was an OP player? When I wasn't in WWN and massclaims were legit good? Yea I miss the days I could force town to claim, rout out the mafia, and win the game for free day 3. Sometimes without being killed!
Senpai HPD notices me everyday when I'm town, do no scum play, and still get lynched day 1.
Anyway, it's time to go and ask people to claim and go lynch those who don't with my high-skill OP role.
I am MysteriousLad.

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Re: CCO: Robyn

Post by monkymeet » Thu Jan 20, 2011 10:50 am

uh gip is pretty much the best AW player out there lol

why would playing with cheats be better wtf

if you think you're all that good, go on WWN IRC and challenge him
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Re: CCO: Robyn

Post by Airnike » Thu Jan 20, 2011 8:57 pm

I was claiming out loud I am NOT even a good player.
I am one of these cheating guys who could not finish AWDS without (stuck at mission 21).
MysteriousLad be like:
Oh hello, I am MysteriousLad.
Do you know when I was an OP player? When I wasn't in WWN and massclaims were legit good? Yea I miss the days I could force town to claim, rout out the mafia, and win the game for free day 3. Sometimes without being killed!
Senpai HPD notices me everyday when I'm town, do no scum play, and still get lynched day 1.
Anyway, it's time to go and ask people to claim and go lynch those who don't with my high-skill OP role.
I am MysteriousLad.

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Re: CCO: Robyn

Post by Simon » Sat Jan 22, 2011 8:22 am

If you don't know how to fight how are you supposed to know how to make CCOs?

Agree Drake sucks. Having played him and played against him, I can tell you he ain't worth crap.
Peace out.

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Re: CCO: Robyn

Post by Airnike » Sat Jan 22, 2011 9:15 am

I over-underestimated myself.
I know how to play, I just meant I'm not an über-top-tier master player.

And I looked at all the advice in the Custom CO section on top of the experience I got from my epic fails.
MysteriousLad be like:
Oh hello, I am MysteriousLad.
Do you know when I was an OP player? When I wasn't in WWN and massclaims were legit good? Yea I miss the days I could force town to claim, rout out the mafia, and win the game for free day 3. Sometimes without being killed!
Senpai HPD notices me everyday when I'm town, do no scum play, and still get lynched day 1.
Anyway, it's time to go and ask people to claim and go lynch those who don't with my high-skill OP role.
I am MysteriousLad.

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Re: CCO: Robyn

Post by PKNintendo » Sun Jan 30, 2011 4:25 pm

She seems ridiculously situational. I'd rather use Eagle over her at the moment.

Consider:
-Making her D2D Ground and Naval units have 100/100 and 90/100 respectively.

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Re: CCO: Robyn

Post by Airnike » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:04 am

Well, you advice making her D2D exactly Eagle.
MysteriousLad be like:
Oh hello, I am MysteriousLad.
Do you know when I was an OP player? When I wasn't in WWN and massclaims were legit good? Yea I miss the days I could force town to claim, rout out the mafia, and win the game for free day 3. Sometimes without being killed!
Senpai HPD notices me everyday when I'm town, do no scum play, and still get lynched day 1.
Anyway, it's time to go and ask people to claim and go lynch those who don't with my high-skill OP role.
I am MysteriousLad.

PKNintendo

Re: CCO: Robyn

Post by PKNintendo » Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:09 am

True, but now she has superior aerial units and a different COP/SCOP.

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Re: CCO: Robyn

Post by Airnike » Fri Feb 04, 2011 1:03 am

Yes.
But her powers pack less of a punch than Eagle's in normal maps.
I agree, however, with her superior air units not being normal.
MysteriousLad be like:
Oh hello, I am MysteriousLad.
Do you know when I was an OP player? When I wasn't in WWN and massclaims were legit good? Yea I miss the days I could force town to claim, rout out the mafia, and win the game for free day 3. Sometimes without being killed!
Senpai HPD notices me everyday when I'm town, do no scum play, and still get lynched day 1.
Anyway, it's time to go and ask people to claim and go lynch those who don't with my high-skill OP role.
I am MysteriousLad.

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Re: CCO: Robyn

Post by Fish-killer » Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:40 am

She's supposed to have high defence for air units, being a nice girl who likes life.
:jugger:: Bolt Guard statistical assessment: Powerful. Smart. Handsome. Bolt Guard intent: Smack-laying in a downward direction.

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Dakka": slang for rapid fire capability, based on the onomatopoeia for automatic guns shooting. You need moar of it. No exceptions.

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Re: CCO: Robyn

Post by Airnike » Mon Feb 07, 2011 8:36 am

But having better air units than the air specialist is breaking the concept in any way.
MysteriousLad be like:
Oh hello, I am MysteriousLad.
Do you know when I was an OP player? When I wasn't in WWN and massclaims were legit good? Yea I miss the days I could force town to claim, rout out the mafia, and win the game for free day 3. Sometimes without being killed!
Senpai HPD notices me everyday when I'm town, do no scum play, and still get lynched day 1.
Anyway, it's time to go and ask people to claim and go lynch those who don't with my high-skill OP role.
I am MysteriousLad.

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Re: CCO: Robyn

Post by Fish-killer » Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:09 pm

what if she has less attack for air units?
:jugger:: Bolt Guard statistical assessment: Powerful. Smart. Handsome. Bolt Guard intent: Smack-laying in a downward direction.

best Advance Wars online game ever: http://aweternalwar.proboards.com/index.cgi

Dakka": slang for rapid fire capability, based on the onomatopoeia for automatic guns shooting. You need moar of it. No exceptions.

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Re: CCO: Robyn

Post by Satel » Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:37 pm

if you want to balance 130 def, 80 atk is the minimum...
100/110 or 90/120 would be more appropriate...
Joey wrote:i think i was mad at certain players and wanted to wave st3rn's success in their face at the most opportune moment, or something

st3rn fudge st3rn

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Re: CCO: Robyn

Post by Fish-killer » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:07 pm

Name: Robyn
Country: :ge:
Gender: female
:hit: Flight, Beauty.
:miss: Cars, Money.
Land units are at 80/100, naval units cost 20% more and are at 90/100. air units are at 90/120
Wind Shear: Harsh air currents affect the battle, making all enemy air units take 1 mass damage. Her own units ride the air current, putting her air units are at 120/150.
True Light's Flight: Harsher air currents affect the battle, making all enemy air units take 2 mass damage, all her own units ride the air current, making her air units move 2 spaces faster, and her air units are at 150/190.
Power Bar: :smallstar: :smallstar: :smallstar: :bigstar: :bigstar: :bigstar: :bigstar:
Power quotes: "Ride the wind!" "Aren't the winds lovely?" "There's a storm brewing. This should be fun!"
Tags-
Sonja: 110%: Geniuses united
Andy: 120: Aerial Overlord
Jess: 80% (Jess didn't like her dad much)
Colin: 90% (she can't buy naval units well, he doesn't like that.)
:jugger:: Bolt Guard statistical assessment: Powerful. Smart. Handsome. Bolt Guard intent: Smack-laying in a downward direction.

best Advance Wars online game ever: http://aweternalwar.proboards.com/index.cgi

Dakka": slang for rapid fire capability, based on the onomatopoeia for automatic guns shooting. You need moar of it. No exceptions.

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Re: CCO: Robyn

Post by Xenesis » Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:05 pm

With a D2D that weak, why would I ever use this CO?
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Re: CCO: Robyn

Post by Fish-killer » Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:55 pm

Name: Robyn
Country: :ge:
Gender: female
:hit: Flight, Beauty.
:miss: Cars, Money.
Land units are at 90/100, naval units are at 90/100. air units are at 100/120
Wind Shear: Harsh air currents affect the battle, making all enemy air units take 1 mass damage. Her own units ride the air current, putting her air units are at 120/150.
True Light's Flight: Harsher air currents affect the battle, making all enemy air units take 2 mass damage, all her own units ride the air current, making her air units move 2 spaces faster, and her air units are at 150/190.
Power Bar: :smallstar: :smallstar: :smallstar: :bigstar: :bigstar: :bigstar: :bigstar:
Power quotes: "Ride the wind!" "Aren't the winds lovely?" "There's a storm brewing. This should be fun!"
Tags-
Sonja: 110%: Geniuses united
Andy: 120: Aerial Overlord
Jess: 80% (Jess didn't like her dad much. he was eagle. I'm surprised nobody figured that out yet.)
Colin: 90% (she can't buy naval units well, he doesn't like that.)
:jugger:: Bolt Guard statistical assessment: Powerful. Smart. Handsome. Bolt Guard intent: Smack-laying in a downward direction.

best Advance Wars online game ever: http://aweternalwar.proboards.com/index.cgi

Dakka": slang for rapid fire capability, based on the onomatopoeia for automatic guns shooting. You need moar of it. No exceptions.

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Re: CCO: Robyn

Post by Mark_009_vn » Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:28 pm

(Jess didn't like her dad much. he was eagle. I'm surprised nobody figured that out yet.)
Aww, I though it was Egon Mayer :?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egon_Mayer

Luftwaffe jokes aside, I would like to say that air units except for B-Copters are rather niche. They're expensive, falls too easily to the relatively cheap AAs, and have only situational amount of damage due to the high usage of spamable units. Even B-Copters are in some way niche, as they're easily countered by the occasional use of AA and such are only used as a opportunistic weapon, build one to harass the enemy and force them to waste money for AAs, send them to some odd corners of the map to scare units away and force a stalemate, etc. At that purpose, B-Cops are very good at doing, so good in fact that they're only a very small number of them being built (as to save money). So the positive side of her D2D/COP is rather situational, while the negative side of her D2D is a glaring all round weakness.
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