Someone who "doesn't care" is probably an atheist, or at least an agnostic. Also, you want details because you're asking for them, so they do matter for you. And stop thinking you're smart, cos you're not. You're really not. You've read a few biased books and think you know everything. Humility is a big part of Christianity, don't you know?Bog wrote:Before I start, I'm going to ask a series of questions which I'd like someone, preferably an Atheist who is knowledgeble about what they actually believe, to answer. (Not someone who "doesn't care.") Detail doesn't matter. You can write a million paragraphs, one sentence or anything in between. By answering I assume you're wanting a debate. (Something which I've been craving for a looooong time.)
1. I don't know. You don't know.Bog wrote:1. What existed before the Big Bang? (Which I believe happened.) If you don't believe in the Big Bang, why not? What's your theory? (If any)
2. How did the Big Bang occur? What caused it?
3. Do you believe in intelligent extraterrastrial life?
4. Is the universe infinite in size? If yes jump to question 6.
5. What exists outside the universe?
6. Is the universe infinite in time? (IE, no end and/or no beginning.)
7. What's your thoughts on evolution? (Which again I mostly agree with.)
8. Do you have any previous experience with "religion," if so, what? What turned you off it?
2. I don't know. You don't know.
3. Yes. Why? Oh, cos Richard Dawkins does? Yeah, he's not representative of most intelligent atheists.
4. I don't know. You don't know. Your knowledge of physics stops at secondary school level. Stop that crumpets.
5. See #4.
6. See #4.
7. This is probably one of the few areas where we would be in agreement still. But it doesn't matter.
8. You are currently going to an extremely politically conservative church every Sunday out of obligation, and getting increasingly annoyed at wasting your Sunday evenings. You are turned off it, you just don't want to admit it, you filthy hypocrite.
You still have a brick wall for a brain, just the cement is wearing out a bit. You have read the Bible but by god do you not understand a freaking word of it beyond the gospels you fudge imbecile.Bog wrote:Any long-time regular here will remember me as a stubborn, obnoxious and angry creationist kid with a brick wall for a brain. Well that's gone out the window. At the end of 2008 you could say I saw the error of my ways, without getting too theological on you. Since then I've actually read the Bible and I actually know what I believe in.
Here's something I've learned in the 4 years since you wrote this: no one outside of religion gives a fudge what you believe. You are filling in gaps. God of the Gaps is a crumpets argument even if you dress it up. Also, the "day/period of the time" thing is disputed, and you know that, you just don't want to say it cos you want to look smart. Stop that crumpets.Bog wrote:I believe the Genesis story to be poetic. "Let there be light" is a poetic way of describing the Big Bang, for example. Humans were created after animals, suggesting evolution. One of the very common misconceptions about Genesis 1-3 is the word "day." It's not a literal day. In fact, in the original Hebrew it actually means "period of time." So there could be any amount of time between each of the 7 "days" of creation that the Bible describes. Hebrew is just a very difficult language to accurately translate.
You are correct, but literally NO ONE in this topic appart from Dragonite gives a damn about this crumpets, so I dunno why you're telling people this.Bog wrote:Also, one needs to understand the culture in which the Bible was written. When it says, for example, "Fred, son of Fred 2" in reality it means "Fred, descendant of Fred 2." This is because of culture, mainly. While today we have CVs to make ourselves look good and sell ourselves to other people, back in Biblical times you named people with a good reputation that you were related to. So for example, if you wanted to apply for a job with that culture here today, you'd say you were related to someone like Mother Teresa or Bill Gates. The Earth is not 3000 years old.
Stop thinking with emotions and engage your fudge brain.Bog wrote:Jesus I believe has infinite love for each and every one of us, died on the cross and rose again, etc. In doing so he took the punishment for any sins you or I commit, thereby granting us a place in Heaven if we accept him. (I am not doing a "turn or burn" thing. That sucks and never works. It shouldn't morally work anyway... Jesus wouldn't have done it.) That's it in a nutshell really.
fudge you. You don't have a clue.Bog wrote:So yeah, go go go.