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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Sniffit II » Fri May 27, 2016 4:52 am

@Thunderwalker - Farage is married to a German woman. I am pretty sure he's undermined his point.
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by ThunderWalker » Fri May 27, 2016 6:21 am

Sniffit II wrote:@Thunderwalker - Farage is married to a German woman. I am pretty sure he's undermined his point.
Didn't know that. But wtf... two politicians well-known for being heavily against Europe and both being married with a woman from another European country.

Germany isn't as ridiculous as Romania if we take the hate towards Eastern Europe in mind but (why the f*cking hell do you even talk about stopping immigration from East-Europeans when your damn wife is from East-Europe!) but it's still an odd coincidence.

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by daisy » Fri May 27, 2016 7:25 am

I cba to bbcode quote and stuff and most it just comes down to opinion over how governments should be structured which I'm not interested in talking about just after finals in which I had to write 4000 words on representation. What I will say though is that this thing about Eurosceptism apparently being a right-wing ideology is ridiculous. I loathe Farage as much as anyone. There's a reason why the Leave campaign didn't want Farage to represent it on TV debates. I want to leave to give a middle finger to the big business interests within the EU and end what I see as racism within immigration policy. If that's not everything the right hates then I don't know what is.

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Joey » Sat May 28, 2016 5:32 am

so do i gotta come in here and explain this crumpets
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Joey » Sat May 28, 2016 5:34 am

"There’s a great temptation to fume at the emptiness and banality of Trump’s statements and at the absence of traditional policy plans; it’s almost irresistible to seek some grander explanation for his success than that people like him.

But you don’t need some grand overarching political science theory. There are millions of miserable people in America who know exactly who engineered the shattering of their worlds, and Trump isn’t one of those people – and, with the exception of Bernie Sanders, everyone else in the field is running on the basis of their experience being one of those people.

When you are abused and bullied enough, anyone willing to beat up or burn down whomever put you in that position is your friend. Even a bully can be a hero if he targets others bullies – and that is, more or less, what Trump has done since day one."

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... oter-anger
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Joey » Sat May 28, 2016 5:39 am

The below is also essential reading.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/ne ... e-20160224

Anyway, you UK lot are pretty much just as sick, currently up in arms that your country is "full" (probably the most hilarious idea that I've ever heard) and doing things far more ludicrous than building a wall, like sending gunships over the Mediterranean to shoot down migrant boats.

Don't be indignant, you lot are every bit as fudge thick. Even your heroes of the left are currently frothing at the mouth at the idea of ANOTHER ground invasion of Iraq.
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Joey » Sat May 28, 2016 5:47 am

Lol Godwin's Law already
dude you are talking about a project that was done as a reaction to hitler settle down
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Joey » Sat May 28, 2016 5:48 am

And if he doesn't win, you get Clinton and her fudge emails.
is anyone actually under the impression that the worst thing about clinton is her email scandal?
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Dragonite » Sat May 28, 2016 5:51 am

I don't recall gunboats actually shooting. Considering the many incidents of drowning already get attention on the media as a humanitarian tragedy. Source?
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Joey » Sat May 28, 2016 5:52 am

Don't know if they actually showed up, but a wall hasn't showed up, either, so the comparison stands.
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by scraggypunk » Sat May 28, 2016 5:58 am

have you actually read those emails? clinton is fudge ridiculously evil
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Joey » Sat May 28, 2016 9:17 am

i am a little more concerned with libya and honduras than her digital crumpets
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Sven » Sat May 28, 2016 10:30 am

rate your leader's butt

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Xenesis » Sat May 28, 2016 11:38 am

Not as good as Mr Trudeau's/10
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Joey » Sat May 28, 2016 3:44 pm

Would not wager that Obama's butt is worse. Plus, there's this:



anyway canada's liberals are a bunch of weak-ass centrist tools
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Joey » Sat May 28, 2016 3:46 pm

i'd ask australia what it's like to have maybe the worst head of state in any developed nation but

you know

netanyahu
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Joey » Sat May 28, 2016 3:46 pm

although calling a damn apartheid state a developed nation is probably not something i'd do idk
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by daisy » Sat May 28, 2016 6:05 pm

holy hell man 5 posts in a row

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Xenesis » Sat May 28, 2016 7:24 pm

Yeah, FFS Joey.

I don't mind you posting, but stop posting like it's a twitter thread. You can put more than 140 characters in a post.
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by scraggypunk » Sun May 29, 2016 3:18 am

it's an aesthetic
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Terragent » Sun May 29, 2016 11:31 am

Joey wrote:i'd ask australia what it's like to have maybe the worst head of state in any developed nation but

you know

netanyahu
Netanyahu's not the head of state. Pretty sure that's the President (whose name eludes me).

Likewise Australia's head of state is the Governor-General (who is, strictly speaking, acting on behalf of the queen); I'd assume you're talking about Abbott, but his party rolled him back in September and we've got Agile and Innovative Malcolm Turnbull as Prime Minister now - and while he's pretty disappointing (not least for caving in to his party's right wing on a bunch of issues that matter to that right wing but not to anybody who's going to actually decide the election) he's far from the bottom. I mean I'd pick him over David Cameron or Shinzo Abe.

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by daisy » Sun May 29, 2016 12:21 pm

After the controversy around the electoral fraud of the Conservative party in the election last year and the panama papers, I'm surprised Cameron is still around. He'll probably be gone soon, but wow that guy knows the right people.

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Linkman » Sun May 29, 2016 12:49 pm

I don't like throwing crap on other people's prez/pms except if they are the US.

Wait yes I do. fudge Maduro.
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by ThunderWalker » Mon May 30, 2016 5:19 pm

daisy wrote:I cba to bbcode quote and stuff and most it just comes down to opinion over how governments should be structured which I'm not interested in talking about just after finals in which I had to write 4000 words on representation. What I will say though is that this thing about Eurosceptism apparently being a right-wing ideology is ridiculous. I loathe Farage as much as anyone. There's a reason why the Leave campaign didn't want Farage to represent it on TV debates. I want to leave to give a middle finger to the big business interests within the EU and end what I see as racism within immigration policy. If that's not everything the right hates then I don't know what is.

Housing: Some EU environmental laws keep us from building houses. (Global warming is a serious issue but so is homelessness and poverty)
Protectionism: https://www.odi.org/news/604-eu-trade-p ... challenges
Guardian on above report: http://www.theguardian.com/global-devel ... -countries
True for the former, in the fact that in the Netherlands there are a few leftwing Eurosceptic parties as well, like the Socialists (big difference with the Dutch Labour party). However, none of the Dutch left parties want to leave the EU outright as they know that is utterly ridiculous. In the Netherlands, leaving the EU is just a Wilders thing.

About the articles, the former is just one that lights up incompetence, which you can have on the EU-level but I don't really have faith in the Dutch politicians themselves (to do a better job in case we were not a member of the EU) either.


About Trump, well, I dunno. I don't really know what Clinton's obsession with that presidential title is, but seriously, damnit. How often has she tried now?
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Terragent » Mon May 30, 2016 6:00 pm

This is her second attempt. Nothing unusual about that in and of itself.

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Dragonite » Mon May 30, 2016 6:17 pm

It's probably the 8 years gap what's making people somewhat tired of Clinton, also because she did foreign affairs after Obama beat her. You would expect the democratic party to be able to produce valid, talented alternatives, since it's such a huge organisation in a country this large. But aside from Sanders nobody really opposed Clinton, even if the mail affair could be a unacceptable risk. The whole former first-lady factor is also rather questionable.

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by daisy » Tue May 31, 2016 3:22 am

ThunderWalker wrote:True for the former, in the fact that in the Netherlands there are a few leftwing Eurosceptic parties as well, like the Socialists (big difference with the Dutch Labour party). However, none of the Dutch left parties want to leave the EU outright as they know that is utterly ridiculous. In the Netherlands, leaving the EU is just a Wilders thing.

About the articles, the former is just one that lights up incompetence, which you can have on the EU-level but I don't really have faith in the Dutch politicians themselves (to do a better job in case we were not a member of the EU) either.
The UK is a totally different kettle of fish from the Netherlands. It's a cross-party issue here, even among parties with the official line of remain. That's how UKIP ended up winning the EU election in 2014, becoming the first party that isn't Labour or the Conservatives to win an election in over a century.

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by ThunderWalker » Tue May 31, 2016 6:32 am

Terragent wrote:This is her second attempt. Nothing unusual about that in and of itself.
Only her second? It feels to me like she tried every damn time since Bill Clinton left the office, lol.

And also what Dragonite said, basically. I think it's a contributing factor to the above point, having been First Lady as well as handling Foreign Affairs under Obama.

@Bog: I see. I never really understood the details of the British voting system though, I always found it pretty odd. But I think you guys find the Dutch system a bit strange as well.
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by daisy » Tue May 31, 2016 9:51 am

UK EU elections use proportional representation, which is fine. Everything else uses first past the post, which is fudge garbage and makes no sense. It's not even supposed to be understood.

police commissioners use some form of av but with 20% turnout no one cares

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Linkman » Tue Nov 08, 2016 6:11 am

I normally don't give a crap, but: to the americans in the forum, please VOTE!
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Bonesy » Tue Nov 08, 2016 6:43 am

but i did like weeks ago, early voting yo

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Linkman » Tue Nov 08, 2016 6:53 am

Good for you Bonesy.

Mail-in ballots are so weird though!
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Hexagon » Tue Nov 08, 2016 8:13 am

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voted last week, but close enough
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Pkdragon » Tue Nov 08, 2016 12:43 pm

Same. Mailed it in.

Believe me, it's been one hell of a year.
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by scraggypunk » Tue Nov 08, 2016 1:28 pm

i voted for you, linkman
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Dragonite » Wed Nov 09, 2016 1:18 pm

Oh.


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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Hexagon » Wed Nov 09, 2016 1:59 pm

I made the mistake of looking at a live map, and everyone on my Facebook feed is flipping their crumpets.

I am going to go to bed, take as much melatonin as I see fit, and deal with whatever sweet hell awaits tomorrow morning.
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Pkdragon » Wed Nov 09, 2016 2:13 pm

Pretty much.

I'm not sure I'll be able to sleep. I've got a nasty, deep pit in the depths of my stomach. My younger brother is literally declaring intent to murder people. I'm genuinely considering running away and moving to Canada.
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Narts » Wed Nov 09, 2016 8:16 pm

This is very dark

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Hexagon » Wed Nov 09, 2016 10:58 pm

I'm finding it harder to panic than I expected to. More sad and exhausted than anything. Scared for a lot of people.
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