Smash Bros Mafia (Mafia wins!)

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Smash Bros Mafia (Mafia wins!)

Post by Linkman » Sun Feb 28, 2016 1:51 am

The year is 20XX. Everyone plays Mafia at TAS levels of perfection. Because of this, the winner of a match depends solely on timezone priority. The timezone metagame has evolved to ridiculous levels due to it being the only remaining factor to decide games.

Alive Players:

1. Dragonite (Villager Princess Peach)
2. hawkesnightmare (Captain Falcon)
3. Pkdragon (Villager Charizard)
4. scraggypunk
5. Bonesy
6. Sven
7. Terragent
8. MysteriousLad (Doctor Mario)
9. Airnike
10. HPD (Villager Falco)
11. Satel (Villager Pikachu)
12. Kireato


Town Roles:

Villager (6): You know it.
Captain Falcon (1): Cop. Gets one investigation every night. Receives "Innocent" if the player is a civilian or "Guilty" if the player is mafia.
Doctor Mario (1): Doc. Every night, he may choose a target. This player is immune to any kill for the night. The doctor may not target himself.
Jigglypuff (1): Vig. Can choose a player to kill every night (no limit). If she chooses to kill, however, during the next day she cannot vote and only takes half votes to be lynched.

Mafia Roles:

Ganondorf (1): Godfather. Shows up innoncent on inspection.
Bowser (1): Framer. Makes someone else show guilty on inspection.
Donkey Kong (1): Yes he is evil, haven't you heard? Regular mafia.

Glorious Master Fox

At the beginning of every turn, glorious master Fox will visit one random player and grant him his grace. This player can SHINE during that turn, and deflect all the lynch votes he has on him to any player of his choice. Glorious Master Fox does not discriminate between town and mafia.

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Rules:

- All night actions take effect simultaneously, regardless of incoming order.
- Roles have been determined by randomizing the name list.
- A person targeted at night but saved by a doctor will have their name revealed, but not their role.
- Abstention is not a valid vote. You either vote to lynch someone or to not lynch for the day.
- A tie during day phase will result in an extension. If the tie remains, the result is No Lynch.
- A day phase ends automatically when majority is reached.
- Inactivity might mean DQs at the discretion of the host.

Please expect your role PMs soon.
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"I can't believe I'm the only person who voted Stallone. His appeal lies in watching is movies again and again just to hear what the hell he's talking about." - Kilteh

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Re: Smash Bros Mafia

Post by Sven » Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:09 am

Lynch HPD

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Re: Smash Bros Mafia (Day 1)

Post by Linkman » Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:14 am

Just a heads up on the SHINE dynamic:

Example: player A has 4 votes, and player B has 1 vote, and it takes 5 to lynch, player A could shine and redirect to player B, effectively killing him.

However, if it takes 6 to lynch, what happens is that player A now has 0 votes and player B has 5 votes. However, the voters may now switch back to player A who can no longer shine. This means you're better off killing your target if you intend on shining!

- It can only be used once per turn.

- Remember, mafia can get the ability as well!

- The same user will not get visited by Fox twice in a row.
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Re: Smash Bros Mafia (Day 1)

Post by Linkman » Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:15 am

"everytime I try to draw xen I end up drawing a kangaroo smoking a cigar while chainsawing a tree" - Deoxy
"I can't believe I'm the only person who voted Stallone. His appeal lies in watching is movies again and again just to hear what the hell he's talking about." - Kilteh

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Re: Smash Bros Mafia (Day 1)

Post by Dragonite » Sun Feb 28, 2016 3:05 am

Are the rest drawbacks revealed in public when they take effect? Otherwise it's fairly easy for Puff to confirm innocent.


I'm a evil European, and you guys will not forget this ever.

Anyway, let's get going.

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Re: Smash Bros Mafia (Day 1)

Post by Satel » Sun Feb 28, 2016 3:05 am

pika pika Hi everyone!
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Joey wrote:i think i was mad at certain players and wanted to wave st3rn's success in their face at the most opportune moment, or something

st3rn fudge st3rn

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Re: Smash Bros Mafia (Day 1)

Post by Airnike » Sun Feb 28, 2016 3:08 am

Grasp the truth! Hold it high!
Thrust your fist, that's how you're supposed to use it!
You must've heard it, go!
Don't be afraid to look yourself in the eye!
Big Blast Sonic, that's my heart beat anew!
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Re: Smash Bros Mafia (Day 1)

Post by MysteriousLad » Sun Feb 28, 2016 3:35 am

Cop Claim
Now

There is no roleblocker so this isn't even optional, anything besides this is suboptimal play.
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Re: Smash Bros Mafia (Day 1)

Post by Sven » Sun Feb 28, 2016 3:39 am

that's nice mlad

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Re: Smash Bros Mafia (Day 1)

Post by MysteriousLad » Sun Feb 28, 2016 4:03 am

This is why you don't play Mafia with Murican's
It's time for the Euros to form a bloc!
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Re: Smash Bros Mafia (Day 1)

Post by Satel » Sun Feb 28, 2016 4:24 am

pi-kaaaaaaa! Euroooooope!
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Joey wrote:i think i was mad at certain players and wanted to wave st3rn's success in their face at the most opportune moment, or something

st3rn fudge st3rn

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Re: Smash Bros Mafia (Day 1)

Post by Kireato » Sun Feb 28, 2016 4:32 am

Thanks to my superior intellectual skills, I have gathered the following:

-MysteriousLad is not Captain Falcon.
-Satel is Pikachu.
-Sven is an HPD lynching Murican.
-Dragonite is curious about how Jigglypuff works.

Now before Captain Falcon decides or doesn't decide to reveal himself, maybe we could take a vote in favour or against? As an appetizer for the lynch vote?

I would like to note that between Ganondorf and Bowser, I doubt it will be that optimal to reveal who Captain Falcon is so I vote Eh
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Re: Smash Bros Mafia (Day 1)

Post by Dragonite » Sun Feb 28, 2016 4:33 am

We don't have a roleblocker, but we do have a framer and a godfather.

The cop is far from infallible and won't win the game on it's own. Blindly rushing a framed target won't end well, so we will need old-fashioned talking anyway.

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Re: Smash Bros Mafia (Day 1)

Post by Dragonite » Sun Feb 28, 2016 4:34 am

Kireato wrote:Thanks to my superior intellectual skills, I have gathered the following:

-MysteriousLad is not Captain Falcon.
-Satel is Pikachu.
-Sven is an HPD lynching Murican.
-Dragonite is curious about how Jigglypuff works.

Now before Captain Falcon decides or doesn't decide to reveal himself, maybe we could take a vote in favour or against? As an appetizer for the lynch vote?

I would like to note that between Ganondorf and Bowser, I doubt it will be that optimal to reveal who Captain Falcon is so I vote Eh
Captain confirmed. Not Falcon though.

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Re: Smash Bros Mafia (Day 1)

Post by Linkman » Sun Feb 28, 2016 4:36 am

Dragonite wrote:Are the rest drawbacks revealed in public when they take effect? Otherwise it's fairly easy for Puff to confirm innocent.
No. She will appear to work as normal, even having her votes counted as usual. The drawbacks will only be noticeable if you reach the needed votes to lynch her and/or a bandwagon including her reaches the necessary votes.

Oh and by the way you need seven votes to lynch someone.
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Re: Smash Bros Mafia (Day 1)

Post by HPD » Sun Feb 28, 2016 5:19 am

I'm much more in favour now of 'Puff roleclaiming.

In any case, I'm claiming 'not 'Puff'.
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Re: Smash Bros Mafia (Day 1)

Post by Pkdragon » Sun Feb 28, 2016 5:54 am

roleclaiming glorious master fox
HPD wrote:You know the only thing on the agenda of the Squirtle Squad is pure, unadulterated chaos.

That, and watching Euros squirm.

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Re: Smash Bros Mafia (Day 1)

Post by hawkesnightmare » Sun Feb 28, 2016 6:17 am

Kireato wrote:Thanks to my superior intellectual skills, I have gathered the following:

-MysteriousLad is not Captain Falcon.
-Satel is Pikachu.
-Sven is an HPD lynching Murican.
-Dragonite is curious about how Jigglypuff works.

Now before Captain Falcon decides or doesn't decide to reveal himself, maybe we could take a vote in favour or against? As an appetizer for the lynch vote?

I would like to note that between Ganondorf and Bowser, I doubt it will be that optimal to reveal who Captain Falcon is so I vote Eh
I second each of Kir's assertions. Let's face it. MysteriousLad is VERY good at playing mafia. He plays on another forum dedicated to playing mafia games, often large scale ones. He knows that claiming cop puts him in one of two categories in everyone's minds:
1) He is the cop and trying to get protection
2) He is a mafia trying to throw off the town and/or force the real cop to claim so his buddies can take him out.

As of right now, I do not believe the Lad one bit. However, I don't want to put him on the chopping block just yet, in case he really is the cop.
daisy: If the UK is worse than the present #5 in the world in terms of GDP come July 1st 2018 I will dye my hair pink.

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Re: Smash Bros Mafia (Day 1)

Post by hawkesnightmare » Sun Feb 28, 2016 6:21 am

You know what fudge it I'm Captain Falcon MysteriousLad is a liar LYNCH MYSTERIOUSLAD
daisy: If the UK is worse than the present #5 in the world in terms of GDP come July 1st 2018 I will dye my hair pink.

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Re: Smash Bros Mafia (Day 1)

Post by Pkdragon » Sun Feb 28, 2016 7:07 am

hawkes i suggest you reread ML's post

PS: villagers please contact me with the secret villager password im thinking we need a worker's revolution in here

no longer shall the tyranny of the special roles oppress us
HPD wrote:You know the only thing on the agenda of the Squirtle Squad is pure, unadulterated chaos.

That, and watching Euros squirm.

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Re: Smash Bros Mafia (Day 1)

Post by MysteriousLad » Sun Feb 28, 2016 7:10 am

Hawke,
You are absolutely mistaken in every way.

Me asking for the cop to claim only reaches two potential goals.

1) I initiate a follow the cop routine which is called a breaking strategy for a reason; as it breaks games by tipping all odds in the towns favour. You literally end up with a cop that can out every result they get each night and they can't die until the doctor is killed. Here read an article from the MAFIAwiki: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... ow_the_Cop
There is literally no drawback to following this routine right now.
2) I'm a really cocky cop that wants WiFoM the scum into not killing me in some horrendous gambit. This is stupid anyway as I may as well just claim to confirm myself as town Day 1, as let's face it if I didn't claim cop (and if I were hypothetically the cop) I'd be dead by tomorrow guaranteed. No, my best play would be to claim, then when nobody counter claims sap that to prove I'm town and then hope the doctor has an ounce of wisdom to protect the CLAIMED cop.

Of cause there's the third option:
3) I'm some idiot suicidal Mafia that wants to ruin my own chances of winning.

There's literally no Mafia motivation in my actions hawke and your vote is objectively awful as such.

Now three things:
The fact that sven hasn't yet piled onto me makes me think he may be town. Secondly, I'm avoiding my PM inbox this game; no cloke and dagger stuff this time round. Thirdly, I literally debated claiming cop to force the cop to counter-claim. As let's face it? Who doesn't want to lynch MysteriousLad. But no I'm nice and don't want to annoy people by forcing their hand like I did last game.

Lynch: Hawkes

For attempting to stir up a wagon against me with bad reasoning. It would have been better if he hadn't attempted to justify it all as it could then be shrugged off as a random vote at game start. Instead he uses flawed unnecessary reasoning to justify himself. Why is this more likely to come from Mafia?
Because Mafia feel an urge to avoid scrutiny, they have to seem correct in all they do. Sometimes their paranoia shows however.
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And logic doesn't work on MysteriousLad... ~Kireato
Wait, wait, wait.

Organized crime is selling bagels on television? Since when? ~Dragon Fogel

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Re: Smash Bros Mafia (Day 1)

Post by MysteriousLad » Sun Feb 28, 2016 7:12 am

Never mind, he claimed cop.
Lynch Dragonite
Paranoia makes more sense now.

For the record if any of you are the cop and know hawke is lying then claim now. We are guaranteed at least one Mafia dead through that and we start a follow the cop routine.
"i put on my robe and wizard hat" ~Pkdragon
"rocks fall everyone dies" ~HPD
Welcome to the optimistic world of WWN :D

And logic doesn't work on MysteriousLad... ~Kireato
Wait, wait, wait.

Organized crime is selling bagels on television? Since when? ~Dragon Fogel

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Re: Smash Bros Mafia (Day 1)

Post by Pkdragon » Sun Feb 28, 2016 7:18 am

lynch hawkes

villagers of the world unite
HPD wrote:You know the only thing on the agenda of the Squirtle Squad is pure, unadulterated chaos.

That, and watching Euros squirm.

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Re: Smash Bros Mafia (Day 1)

Post by MysteriousLad » Sun Feb 28, 2016 7:20 am

Lynch Pkdragon
Until you unvote the claimed cop or provide us with a counter-claim.
Consider this a pressure vote.
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Organized crime is selling bagels on television? Since when? ~Dragon Fogel

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Re: Smash Bros Mafia (Day 1)

Post by Pkdragon » Sun Feb 28, 2016 7:21 am

i can't be anti-town ive done that too often recently it gets boring

but i can't be pro town when the cop roleclaims and mafialad is bringing out the mafia wiki

so the only goal left for me is to be anti-bourgeois
HPD wrote:You know the only thing on the agenda of the Squirtle Squad is pure, unadulterated chaos.

That, and watching Euros squirm.

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Re: Smash Bros Mafia (Day 1)

Post by Satel » Sun Feb 28, 2016 7:24 am

pi-pi-ka pika pikachu

pikachu pikachu

pika pi pikachu?
Joey wrote:i think i was mad at certain players and wanted to wave st3rn's success in their face at the most opportune moment, or something

st3rn fudge st3rn

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Re: Smash Bros Mafia (Day 1)

Post by MysteriousLad » Sun Feb 28, 2016 7:25 am

Vote me then instead.

Also the wiki is your Bible sir, you better read it and learn.

Especially after I updated it's main page.

Satel is Mafia also.
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Re: Smash Bros Mafia (Day 1)

Post by Pkdragon » Sun Feb 28, 2016 7:25 am

MysteriousLad wrote:Vote me then instead.

Also the wiki is your Bible sir, you better read it and learn.

Especially after I updated it's main page.

Satel is Mafia also.
my bible is the communist manifesto
HPD wrote:You know the only thing on the agenda of the Squirtle Squad is pure, unadulterated chaos.

That, and watching Euros squirm.

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Re: Smash Bros Mafia (Day 1)

Post by Satel » Sun Feb 28, 2016 7:26 am

pikachu pi? What the hell Lad?
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Joey wrote:i think i was mad at certain players and wanted to wave st3rn's success in their face at the most opportune moment, or something

st3rn fudge st3rn

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Re: Smash Bros Mafia (Day 1)

Post by Pkdragon » Sun Feb 28, 2016 7:28 am

btw donkey kong you can join our glorious revolution too, you count as one of the oppressed
HPD wrote:You know the only thing on the agenda of the Squirtle Squad is pure, unadulterated chaos.

That, and watching Euros squirm.

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Re: Smash Bros Mafia (Day 1)

Post by MysteriousLad » Sun Feb 28, 2016 7:30 am

Comrade pkdragoni, would you call yourself more or less equal than I?

How about we go lynch the product of a capitalist abomination known as Pikachu?
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Re: Smash Bros Mafia (Day 1)

Post by MysteriousLad » Sun Feb 28, 2016 7:35 am

Also two legs good and four legs bad etc. etc.
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And logic doesn't work on MysteriousLad... ~Kireato
Wait, wait, wait.

Organized crime is selling bagels on television? Since when? ~Dragon Fogel

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Re: Smash Bros Mafia (Day 1)

Post by Satel » Sun Feb 28, 2016 7:36 am

pika pikachu, pi-pikachu. You are full of crumpets, MysteriousLad.
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Joey wrote:i think i was mad at certain players and wanted to wave st3rn's success in their face at the most opportune moment, or something

st3rn fudge st3rn

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Re: Smash Bros Mafia (Day 1)

Post by MysteriousLad » Sun Feb 28, 2016 7:42 am

Say pika one more time if you're claiming Mafia.
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And logic doesn't work on MysteriousLad... ~Kireato
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Organized crime is selling bagels on television? Since when? ~Dragon Fogel

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Re: Smash Bros Mafia (Day 1)

Post by Linkman » Sun Feb 28, 2016 7:42 am

What is Pikachu's french name?
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Re: Smash Bros Mafia (Day 1)

Post by Dragonite » Sun Feb 28, 2016 8:10 am

OMMIPIKA

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Re: Smash Bros Mafia (Day 1)

Post by hawkesnightmare » Sun Feb 28, 2016 10:24 am

Linkman wrote:What is Pikachu's french name?
le pikacheu (idfk)

@MLad I still don't trust you.
daisy: If the UK is worse than the present #5 in the world in terms of GDP come July 1st 2018 I will dye my hair pink.

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Re: Smash Bros Mafia (Day 1)

Post by Sven » Sun Feb 28, 2016 3:57 pm

lynch hawkesnightmare

you were mafia last time

so you must be mafia this time

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Re: Smash Bros Mafia (Day 1)

Post by Pkdragon » Sun Feb 28, 2016 5:31 pm

MysteriousLad wrote:Comrade pkdragoni, would you call yourself more or less equal than I?

How about we go lynch the product of a capitalist abomination known as Pikachu?
i dont trust your devotion to the movement
HPD wrote:You know the only thing on the agenda of the Squirtle Squad is pure, unadulterated chaos.

That, and watching Euros squirm.

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Re: Smash Bros Mafia (Day 1)

Post by hawkesnightmare » Sun Feb 28, 2016 7:08 pm

Sven wrote:lynch hawkesnightmare

you were mafia last time

so you must be mafia this time
Absolutely infallible logic. Let's kill Satel and Scraggy too, Hm?

Lynch Sven. You are a threat to the town as of right now and need to be dealt with. I can't really fault Pk for voting me because he's doing his own thing and might be useful later on. But you have no excuse.
daisy: If the UK is worse than the present #5 in the world in terms of GDP come July 1st 2018 I will dye my hair pink.

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